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Hi all.

even tho' i've made a few posts here on DSK, and have logged on to "listen and learn" almost every day for the last 12+ months, have been to a few VW events, have managed to scratch together quite a neat collection of splitties, and have even met a few of the "regulars" over here in Sydney, i've never really officially said "hello" ... so finally after a year or so of DSK "membership" here is my official "hello" ...


i thought that i might start with just a bit of background ...


i live in Sydney, Hills District, but grew up in the far West Coast of Sth Australia, right on the edge of the Nullarbor Plain ... Mum and Dad drove splitties for as long as i can ever remember... in fact, for many years ours was the ONLY splitty in the district and was certainly the only car i ever remember Mum and Dad having as a child ... i will do a seperate thread on this in the ANZAC Historical section ..

Mum's first splitty
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More recently i became interested in Kombi's thru an interest in vintage caravans .... i'm not quite sure why i like vintage caravans ... but i have had an interest in them for ages .... i am lucky enough to have two very rare aussie "bondwood" caravans .... both are "Don" caravans - a make that is very highly sought after in the vintage van scene ....Don was a victorian based "luxury" caravan manufacturer ... in fact, Don was one of the very first (1923) aussie companies to manufacture caravans in a modern production facility ....much of the Don caravans were "hand made and assembled" ... at it's peak, Don had a staff of about 50 and they produced about 3 caravans per week - compare this to the "new kid on the block" - Franklin Caravans with a staff of under 20 people producing in excess of 10 caravans per week ...


Don Factory
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prior to that time most caravans in aussie were made in small numbers by part time "back yard" craftsmen of varying degrees of skill ... with most making a fairly small number of vans in any given year ... a lot of vans were also sold as "kits" by aussie engineering companies - and hence built by the "home enthusiast" .. as far as we know there are less than 15 Don caravans left in australia....

my total pride and joy is a 1955 built 12' 4 Berth Don. It is historically important as it was one of the very last of the "egg shaped profile" Don's built. The workmanship in this van is incredible ... dovetailed joinery, original leadlight windows, a "gentleman's wash basin" that drops down from the wardrobe ... and even tho' it is over 50 years old - all the cupboard doors open and close with a perfect click.. This van has been continuously registered since new ... and altho in pretty good condition is in storage in melbourne awaiting transport to sydney, where it will undergo a "back to bare wood" total restoration once i have finished restoring my 56 Don.

1955 12" Don
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Don Brochure

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i also have a 1956 built 14' 4 berth Don. It is a very rare aussie caravan, and is historically important for a number of reasons.

Up until 1955 all Don caravans had the very traditional "egg shaped profile" as seen in my 1955 12'Don. In 1957, in response to increased competition and the "mass production" approach of the new competitors, the Don company made a number of important changes that ultimately led to their demise ... they drastically decreased the amount of "hand made craftsman" content in their caravans and increased the amount of mass produced prefabricated components. They abandoned the "hand made" leadlight wood framed windows, replacing them with mass produced aluminium frames. And most importantly, they dropped the egg shaped profile and introduced a more "modern" squarish frame .... i could go on ... but i can tell that you are already falling asleep :) ... from this time forward, the Don caravan gradually lost it's premier position as the "Rolls royce" of aussie vans, eventually closing it's doors ....


The 56 that i have is a hybrid between the old and the new ... it has the older "pre 56" style rounded rear end profile with the newer "post 56" squarish front end. It still has many of the luxury finishes so typical of the Don caravans, including a full sized enamel bath! Most importantly, it is the only one of this year and style know to exist. Even more importantly, it has a well documented history. If you look at the June 1956 Modern Motor magazine you will see an article and photo's of this actual van - it was used as a "display model" for the release of the new Don model "a new modern, luxury caravan that retained all the traditional Don features" at the 56 melb motor show where it was purchased by a family who NEVER actually used it. And for a whole lot of reasons that i won't bore anyone with - it has spent it's entire 50+ year life in a covered garage - and has NEVER actually been towed away on a holiday. So the interior paintwork, carpets, woodwork, sink, stove etc are as pristine as the day that it left the factory 50+ years ago - right down to the original box of matches (one match only used - presumably to test light the stove) ... talk about a "Barn Find" ... unfortunately the exterior was damaged in parts by 50+ years of the sun beating down on it thru a window .... so it is currently in a workshop here in Sydney undergoing a complete and total restoration - right back to it's original colors ... the water tanks are being replaced (and old ones kept aside) ... the electrics redone etc ... all exterior chrome has been removed, stripped, rechromed and replaced .. it should be ready in a few months ... and we then intend to take it on a well photographed maiden voyage .. it's never too late they say :)

150 Model 14' Don brochures
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My 150 Don - exterior stripped
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so how do these old caravans lead to splitty's ..... simple really ... we were looking for a tow car for the 1955 12' Don .. and after many frustrating nights on the net, going thru pix of old holdens, fords, etc etc ... the ONLY car that my wife liked was a Kombi ... that of course led to much excitement when i went thru the family connection to Kombis ...

After a lot of time looking thru the various VW forums here and overseas we eventually settled on the possibility of getting a Kombi to restore as a tow car .. (the 12' Don is actually fairly light for a van ... weighing in at 700kg) ... and eventually found the DSK forum, which has now become my second home ..

to cut a long story short .. i ended up buying Mikki's old 55 ... as it was a pretty solid, never hacked about, pretty complete 11 window that would match the year of manufacture of the van nicely ...

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since then i have been neglecting the vans a little while hunting down and building up a collection of buses to gradually restore. I think that i am almost at the point where i have what i want, and am pretty happy to finish off the 150 Don caravan and to then start work on the restoration of the first Bus ... but perhaps that's a story for another thread :lol: :lol: :lol:

in fact, i think that the Kombi's have gradually taken over as the main interest ... and it's good to see the kids get really excited when out and about and one of them spots a "beetle" or a "kombi" ... i am really proud of the fact that my 6yo can tell the difference between a splitty, an early bay, and a late bay ... and she soooo wants a "pink" beetle when she "grows up" :shock:

i have really appreciated the heaps of advice, info, help and encouragement that i have recieved over the year from all the DSK members that i have had contact with ... and i look forward to sharing the resto of my buses over the next few years ... stay tuned :)

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Post by okrasa power »

Hi Rod

Look's like you have caught the hunting craze called Kombi.

Hope you finish the 55 and the various projects you now have

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Rod,

You need a Devon Caravette interior my man. Dove tail jointed oak and marine ply, hand waxed finished camper interiors for split screen buses in the UK from the late 50's to mid 70's.

JP White (Devon) followed a similar fate as Don's except the 70's craze of jetting off on holiday to the Mediterranean took over from holidays of trundling around the English countryside Carry on Camper style!

Good luck with the resto's

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Post by muzza72 »

that was a great read rod keep us up to date with both the van and the spliity resto

cheers muzza
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Top stuff.. will be good to see the progress of the whole project.. Thanks, Tim
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Post by aussietanker »

Hiya Mikki .....

you are right ... i have definately caught the kombi bug ... the only thing is ... i am sure that my wife thinks that you are the one responsible ... and she is probably right :) ...

i still have the '55 ... i have "tucked" it away, out of sight, hoping that in the excitement of the other buses arriving, "the boss" will somehow forget that i still have it - one can only live in hope :) .... i would still like to keep it and restore it, possibly with a "removable" camper interior, if that is possible - especially as it is the same year as my 1955 12' Don caravan ... they would look great color coded together - and would be great for family type trips, giving us just a little more room as altho' the 12' Don is a 4 berth, it is fairly "cramped" with 4 in it ... i have definately decided to keep it as an 11 window ... i always felt very uncomfortable with the thought of trying to turn it into something that it really isn't ... and feel muchi better now that i have finally made the decision not to do that ...

my other buses have arrived ... they cleared customs yesterday ... and hopefully will go thru AQIS early next week ... i will probably have to sell one or two of the 15's - my plans changed a little, as i came across a couple of "surprises" that i didn't expect to find - they were just too good to pass on ... and unfortunately i can't keep them all ... i will give you a call once i have them safely tucked away ... i am very keen to get your opinion .... besides, you still owe me a passenger side ride in the 23W :)


hiya matara ...

thanks for the welcome and the comments ... as you can see ... i am very interested in your thoughts on the camper thing for the 55 ...i read somewhere about a kombi camper conversion (possibly wolfsburg "brand" ??) that was held in and attached to the bus by some special type of clamp ... so that it could be removed at some point if required ... do you have any idea or info on that .... i also really like your comments re the Devon camper - that type of quality sounds very compatable with the Don ... were the devon camper kits ever bought into aussie at all? ... and any idea of the best, or most popular layout? ... any links to any devon info that you have would also be greatly appreciated ...


muzza and frenzix ...

i have enjoyed reading posts from both of you on many occassions ..... thanks for the encouraging comments ... i am going to put up a thread in the history section on kombis on the far west coast - nullarbor area in the next few days ...

and will definately start a resto thread ... once i decide what to work on first :shock:


again ... it's nice to be part of the dsk community ... i look fwd to putting faces to some of the forum names and catching up with many of you over the next few years ...

stay well, regards
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You been bitten by two bugs mate!
I love vans - was just reading up on Spartan Trailers this week. Looking forward to seeing your collection.
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Post by Volksaddict »

...great read ...i lived in a Don caravan for many years in my parents backyard as a youngster ...if i remember right it was eventually sold for $50 ...it came from a onsite van and was done up as a spare bedroom....the 55 you own was also in my family and sat here in our back lane and was home to an itinerant on and off for a few years before mikki scooped it up!!!
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Post by kom123 »

Rod do up one of the Don's first. that way when The Boss finds out you still have the 11 window you will have somewhere else to sleep :)
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Welcome officially Rod.

If you ever decide to part with any of the caravan collection,please contact me..

Love the "Don" with the split front windows and safaries..

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Is Don...........is good!
No matter what happens they can't take you out in the street and shoot you......
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Post by aussietanker »

dan said ..
You been bitten by two bugs mate!
I love vans - was just reading up on Spartan Trailers this week. Looking forward to seeing your collection.
Cheers
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absolutely right Dan ... and we will have to get together for a beer sometime ... i have a huge collection of caravan books + some great "coffee table" style color books on the usa "travel trailers" .....

the spartan manors are a great looking van .... there are some great restoration pages on the net ...i think that anyone that likes the look of the flxible"s will also like the look of these travel trailers ... in fact i have had some discussions with one of the main vintage van restorers over there about converting some to RHD and bringing them over to sell locally (plus keeping one or two for myself of course :) ) ....

here are some nice pics of a pair of fully restored Spartans ... they are owned by Craig Dorsey of Vintage Vacations ....

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also do a google on on Westwood .. and Westcraft ... this is my all time favourites ....

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the interiors of these vans are just absolutely incredible ... problem is ... there's just never 'enuff $$$ to buy it all :( :) :)

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hey volksaddict ...

thats great to hear - i think that's an incredible coincidence that you also had both a Don and a 55 kombi once ..... sold a Don for $50 - hah ... you would die if you new how much they sell for now ... they are the 23Window of the vintage van world :) ..

and do you mean that Mikki bought the 55 from you? ... wow ... if so, that's amazing ... see, i think that's a sign that i should keep the 55 ... it was meant to be reunited with a Don :)

do you have any pix of either the Don or the 55 when in it's original glory? ... if so i would love to see them ..... you could pm me if you prefer not to post them for any reason ...

and kom123 ...

if the missus finds out that i still got the 11 there will be another itinerant sleeping in a Don ... and it will be me :cry: :lol:
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